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S1E07: Nightlife Nightmares: The toxic workplace traits of bars and clubs

Night Shift Nightmares: The Dark Side of Bars and Clubs is an episode that shines a light on the toxic working environment in the nightlife industry. Hosts Nicola and Gina chat with former nightlife staffer Joelle to share their personal experiences and reveal the harsh realities of working in the nightlife industry. From long hours and dangerous situations to exploitation and abuse, this series uncovers the impact the nightlife has on its employees. “Night Shift Nightmares” aims to raise awareness and bring change to the industry. This is a must-watch for anyone who has worked or is considering working in the nightlife industry, and for those who want to support the bar and club staff in their community. Join us as we shed light on the dark side of the nightlife.

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All these different shirts. No, that was the other Brian. That was T-shirt Brian Oh.Speaker 1: 53:37

T-shirt Brian. Oh my God, yeah, brian with the insurgents was very funny.Speaker 2: 53:41

Yeah, um, we had the lady with four million jobs. Do you remember that one Mm? hmm, i know Where she had like what was it Like? 47.Speaker 1: 53:54

Like her first. Like her first line out of the box was like I’ve had 46 jobs in the past 30 years and we’re like what.Speaker 2: 54:05

We’ve got Amy, who talks to us about toxic positivity, which is pretty cool, and then we had Stu, who was our most recent recording, yeah, talking about leadership, which I’m pretty bloody excited about.Speaker 1: 54:20

And now so we’ll be doing some more interviews, but also sprinkling in some of the research episodes.Speaker 2: 54:25

Yeah, and then we’ll be doing some research episodes is going to like is our next kind of step right? That’s our evolution.Speaker 1: 54:33

And we’ll see what happens. We’ll see what you guys like more And if you have any comments, thoughts, reactions, just reach out to us.Speaker 2: 54:39

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Speaker 2 [00:00:57] In today’s episode.

Gina [00:01:01] All right. Hi, Nicola. How are you?

Nicola [00:01:03] Good, thank you. I’m actually exhausted this morning. I just want to point that out. Okay. I’ve been brush my hair or showered and I’m also not wearing pants. That’s okay.

Gina [00:01:15] That’s a point of zoom. You don’t have to wear pants. You never know. No one will ever know. But now they do. Because you just announced it.

Nicola [00:01:23] Unless I stand up.

Gina [00:01:25] Don’t stand up. All right, So it’s like crack of dawn early for you? Yes.

Nicola [00:01:31] Dawn early for me. Feeling miserable.

Gina [00:01:33] I’m sorry. Where’s Quinn? To make your coffee?

Nicola [00:01:36] He’s still sleeping.

Gina [00:01:39] Ridiculous. Time is at 6 a.m.. Okay. So are you ahead of us? You are.

Nicola [00:01:46] It’s tomorrow. We’re in the future. It’s super cool. I hate the future. It’s looking pretty cool today, so. Okay. Good opportunity to prepare for tomorrow.

Gina [00:01:56] Perfect. Thank you so much.

Nicola [00:01:58] I was asking about you. How are you?

Gina [00:02:00] Me? I’m good. I was, like, super, super productive yesterday, so I feel really good, cause Nicole and I did two different. We did, like, an interview, and then we did a follow up episode. We just were, like, on top of our shit. And then your day went to hell, and my day was continually productive, so that was good. I’m super excited to hear this story and oh, yes, yes. And this is my friend Joel, who is going to be talking about her toxic workplace experience. And Joel, why don’t you tell us a little bit about the industry you were working in, how you found yourself working there? What was the circumstances under which you took that job? Give us a little bit. So. Yeah, of course. So thanks for having me on. I’m excited to talk about this. How I got involved in my toxic work environment was I was a college student at the time and we were taking a walk down this popular area in downtown West Palm, and there was a nightclub that was right there. And one of the managers just grabbed me and was like, Hey, do you want a job? And I said, Yeah, And that’s how it started. And then it began a probably a good 20 year spiral down the rabbit hole of the nightlife. So you were in the nightlife industry for a good 20 years total, I would say from 19 to 36, 35, 35, mid-thirties. All right. Thank the time you took the job, because, like what? Who wouldn’t? You’re a college student.

Nicola [00:03:35] You want money. Every college student wants money.

Gina [00:03:38] But the funny thing was, as I was at a private Christian school, so I had to lie and hide it from the school because I could get kicked out. Okay, so let’s talk about what was your first red flag. The fact that we were supposed to hide it from the school was a red flag, but you don’t realize it at the time. It’s you got a drink with the people. You got to put your put on a stage, and it’s a show and it’s live your best life. And. And, you know, things got crazy at times. But during that, during during the hours, we were open and especially after the hours we were open. So, you know, so, you know, it was a free for all. So can you give us some specifics on some of the worst experiences you had? We were programed to see the wife on one day or the girlfriend the next day, Valentine’s Day, because we always laugh about it because February 13th, the day before Valentine’s Day is the day that the guys bring out the girlfriends and then the Valentine’s Day, they come in with their wives. That’s hilarious. Guess who’s not going out on either night? Wife work, I.

Nicola [00:04:43] Guess, is also not going out on either.

Gina [00:04:46] Call. So you okay? Anyway, so, Joel, can you tell us something that affected you? Like specifically like you personally, would you be willing to share something like that? Yeah. What affected me personally, going off of exactly what I said, I put men at all, men being cheaters. I also actually thought that it was normal for men to have both a girlfriend and a wife. So it really brought down my values and it really brought down my standards of what men and husbands are supposed to do. You know, we had cops that were, you know, on site on the outside at all the locations, whatever. Just a minute. And I remember this one specific time I had one of the cops come in and was like, Hey, let’s let you know. Your boyfriend’s in the car. Your car, by the way. Doing something with another girl. What do you want me to do? And I was like, I think, you know, you don’t do anything. And he was like, Sure, Yes. Then I had the whole this was. I forgot about this. I’m speaking on the same person. I had the whole we had a huge staff meeting right at the end of the staff meeting. Like driving a truck. They all sat me down. There was a group of them. Ten of them? Yeah. Just let you know while you were away, your boyfriend was in here with another girl and hookers. And then they went back to your apartment and were at your apartment together. And I just had a. It’s like no big deal. Really? I don’t know. I wouldn’t to not be.

Nicola [00:06:21] Able to faint.

Gina [00:06:22] I just. I mean, I of course, I was impacted and I was hurt. And then, you know, when you confronted it, I’ll just be asking you wasn’t like that. Okay. Okay. All right. So can you tell us a little anything about, like your managers or the established. Oh, yeah, that. Oh, yeah. You were like that. You, like, started to realize, like, this is fucked up. I should be here. Like, no one should be here. Yeah. So I think especially in the beginning days, I have to be cautious of what I say. Lots of the managers and slash slash owner or slash owners that definitely were hooking up a staff or other people, without a doubt, especially owners and just the things that they would allow and they were to tolerate to like we used to not have as many cameras. And then as time went on and lawsuits happen and things like that, more cameras came into place. But, you know, it was a free for all. Like back in the day when I first started and the first opens, everybody was they were just hooking up with whoever. And then they used to have I wasn’t a part of it because it was a little before me. But topless checkouts. So, you know, what does that what does that mean to you? What does it all mean exactly what it sounds like? Or does it mean that so some of the girls like, yeah, you when you do your checkout at the end of the night like you was topless. The impact and I don’t know of some have realized it or not or I think that they do but the it has long lasting impacts on you like I think like these girls have lessened I think what’s the word I’m looking for their viewpoint on themselves and how relationships look like. Everyone was objectified. The owners, the managers all objectified you. Let me say this some of us, and it’s not something to laugh about, but we do laugh about it. But like because we were very close to the where Jeffrey Epstein used to live and we laugh because, well, like there’s not how do we not get impacted by Jeffrey Epstein because we were across the way and they had to stop and there we were right there. And it’s almost like a smaller version of like the Playboy Mansion, where the owners being Hugh Hefner and on a smaller scale, not to the extreme where, you know, the playmates, they were just there for one reason. And it was the same thing where there was a couple of owners that, you know, they think they’re Hugh in that they can have whatever girl and they could because they’re the owners. So do you think side note, do you think Jeffrey Epstein ever came in? We talk about that and we we believe that they had to if they had to. And I know like I don’t know the geography of what Joel is talking about. And it’s literally like there’s a small bridge and you’re like, right there by yeah, that’s the while. The mansion doesn’t exist anymore, but, you know, so they had to have it. They had to have like I remember to there was a couple that came in and I remember this vividly, and I don’t know who it was. I have no idea who it was, but I remember this and ah, we actually kicked them out because what they were trying to do was get the girls to come back. What was it like? Swing? It was something we had swinging, but we had one swinging. I work two string parties and my whole story. Sorry. Very odd. Okay, well, there was something about that couple and there was something off about it. We actually. I believe so anyhow. But the swinging party, I worked one swinging party at a different club once and I was like that. I was like, Oh, this is just dirty. Very dirty. Question about the swinging party was the majority of the people shut up like unattractive because in my mind it was in my mind like swinging or orgies. Like you think it’s going to be like a great time. And then you got there and it’s like all, like disgusting human beings. I don’t think it was like that. I think they were like normal people. Normal. But you can feel like it’s a night, like the drinks got happening. You felt them like they were predators. They were predators. And they were just normal predators. Yeah, just normal predators, not abnormal predators. I love that. This is wild. So you’re like. So you’re it’s almost like you’re borderline, like working in the sex trade and. And yeah, basically, like, without yeah, without, like, sexual, like performing the act or selling the act, you are like servicing people who are doing that. Yeah, we were definitely made to feel like that was normal. And then as time went on, I just knew deep inside that something wasn’t right.

Nicola [00:11:01] Well, I’m, I’m curious to know. So at this point, you’d been in this for ten years.

Gina [00:11:05] At that point I was probably a little over ten years and I was probably rounding it up.

Nicola [00:11:11] Now, this is this may sound like a mean question, but is there like an expiry date on a hawk?

Gina [00:11:20] You would think about chicks. Well, yeah, Ageism does exist in that kind of.

Nicola [00:11:24] Industry because I’m like, okay, so you’re a hot college babe. Now, what, just over ten years? So we’re like in our thirties at this point. Yeah. Or early, early thirties, late twenties, right? And I’m like, yeah. If I think back to when I was that age, I’m like, Fuck, I was expired. There was no way I was living at that point.

Gina [00:11:44] Fuck yeah, you’re right. So and this particular establishment, most of us were in our, I would say early thirties. You’re pushing at your mid thirties but I would say 30 is like your they wanted the older type a little. Not the young college. They wanted the young one. Let me let me back you up right there real quick. They make you think that this world is so cool. This is the best place to work in and this is it. And that you are that it person because you work in the IT place. And it’s then I realized it’s not that that one establishment that I was at for many years. They are very good at this family a succulent in a way where you just didn’t know where like during the day. Yeah, they swallow you whole to make you think that you’re living this this glorious. We’re partying with celebrities. We’re partying with the best of the best. That was our I’m 33 ish. I started making an exit, an exit plan, exit strategy plan, and I’m probably 35, 36. I was out. And a funny thing was my husband, who’s my husband now, three years prior to me getting out, he came in and he wanted to date me and I knew what a great man he was and you know what a great man he is. And I said, I can’t. I can’t because I knew what a quality was. And I wasn’t at the time. And I needed to get myself in the right mindframe because I was coming out and I was trying. I knew that I was going. I needed to go back up again, so I had to get myself together. And ironically, we reconnected and then we were together from that point on. What was your strategy? Did you have one? Yeah, I did. I was get I got my real estate license. I had some money that I knew was live on as I’m building my my career. And so I got my license. I started doing that and then I stopped managing. The goal was stop managing, because I was I managed and then bartend one night because bartending was a lot of money. So I said, I’m no longer managing. I want to bartend three nights a week so I can focus on my career. So I would work all night long and get up and do my day thing. And then I went down to two nights and then I went down to one night and it was a year before it was it was Easter time. And that Easter I said, I have one year to get myself completely out. And I took that year. And then the the Palm Sunday, the Saturday before Palm Sunday, I said, this will be my last Sunday, my last shift, and I’m done after that. And I’m like, Would you have done anything differently? Yeah. So one of the things that’s so true is if you tell me who your closest friends are, I’ll tell you who you are, what your future is, right? So the people that I surround myself with back then, because I had two worlds, so I had the world of my college crew, and then I had a separate group of friends which drives the nightlife. And I probably would have stayed away from from that. And I I’m not going to talk crap because, you know, it did serve its purpose. I am hard on myself about those times. I did have a fun time, but there was no value in it. And it’s almost like we laugh. I laugh because it’s almost embarrassing now because, like, I would never want my daughter to really know that was that lifestyle. Like I would never want her to do that. So it’s almost embarrassing. But like, I learned my lesson from it and it makes me a stronger person from it. So this one family, how did they like suck you in and like, swallow you whole? Can you accept? Ain’t that like I think I know it, but I kind of want to know a little bit more. Because you do everything together. So you’re spending 12 hour shifts together. Then on your off nights, you’re doing things together. You’re going to the gym together, you’re drinking together, you’re party together, you’re texting together during the day. You have issues you guys got to solve together. If you’re managing every part of your day, you’re with these people. So there’s like no boundaries. I wonder, does work life balance.

Nicola [00:15:48] Not to make it not to make this about us, you know, But I wonder if that’s that family environment that we were sucked into where we were so busy all day with these people and all the time. And then it was, you know, there was no.

Gina [00:16:03] Off.

Nicola [00:16:04] Time. There was no time. And then you’re just in that mindset the entire time.

Gina [00:16:10] Yeah. And it’s and that’s actually what it is. Yeah. Yeah. And then, and then you’re like, Oh, I’m so lucky because I actually like the people that I work with. The weird thing is, is there a certain crew of us that got to do whatever we wanted so that the longer you stayed, the more you proved yourself, the more privileges you had. And we ran the show. So it’s not like what? We’re just going to call the owner myself and I’ll do it. Like the managers knew that certain bartenders you can’t touch, they’re untouchable. And I’m on touch. I was one of those. So when is one of them? When I go to L.A.. Okay, I’ll call you on it myself. Don’t worry about it. You’ll be fine. Like, Well, I feel like.

Nicola [00:16:49] You’re not earning, like, a million kajillion dollars doing this. So what is, like, the price?

Gina [00:16:54] Because, like, you probably are.

Nicola [00:16:56] Is it tips? Because I know in America, like, you only really get tips. You’re not even paid like normal wage.

Gina [00:17:01] Yeah. You’re really paid anything on like, on a on a hourly scale. I did it didn’t matter. But like, when we bartended, like when we first opened, like you were making a thousand bucks a night. So my sister sent me a photo of one. My niece is being baptized. She’s 14. So this was 14 years ago. And I got these different boobs that new boobs, these were are older. Yeah. So I first did the other ones expire? They were ginormous and they were freshly done. And I was I did it basically the day that my niece was born. So fast forward to two months later. It’s her baptismal. I go home to New York and my brother, who is ten years younger than me, I come downstairs to go to our family function and he yells at me and is like, You need to go put on a scarf around your body. You cannot go in public with these jokes. This is absolutely embarrassing. And I’m like, I don’t know what you’re talking about. This is great. And he’s like, No. And he’s screaming at me and he’s yelling at me. So I said, Fine. So I put on the scarf, totally forgot about the situation until the other day when my sister sends me a photo and goes, Look at this picture of you guys at the baby’s christening. And I was like, Oh my God. And that’s what I remember that she’s like, Why do you have this huge scarf on? And I was like, Because Joseph baby put it on because he was embarrassed by my boobs. And we were dying laughing because he made me really cover up. But and still, like, it looked like it looked like the priests like that. What are the things that they like when you’re when you’re a Catholic? I am a Catholic. But. But what are the things that put around their necks? Yeah, those white coverings. You don’t want to.

Nicola [00:18:47] Google it right now. I’m Googling Google and I’m going to go the big scarf that.

Gina [00:18:55] Catholic priests wear.

Nicola [00:18:57] Wear?

Gina [00:18:58] What is it?

Nicola [00:18:59] Oh, okay. It’s got a couple of names, but it’s called a stole or an escort lest they steal this ecclesiastical dress.

Gina [00:19:11] That’s what it is. So that’s what it looked like. Like it looked like she had like because it was this white thing, I was like, Why are you dressed like a choir check? But it was just to disguise the enormity of her tits. But then I somehow, somehow ended up and I don’t know, I just ended up at a private Christian college when I went to college, not understanding what I got myself into. So that’s really what started telling my life, not understanding what I got myself into. Yeah, ahead. So that always was in my background because my every part of the schooling was about they somehow got into every, every class. And so I didn’t really appreciate it until afterwards.

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Gina [00:20:09] So it sounds like even though it was kind of like, like shitty during the time something good came out of it, like it let you know your support system. Which is for you. It’s your faith. Like that became stronger and yeah, you kind of. It also you knew you wanted more, so you did something about it. And not everyone can do that because I feel like sometimes in workplaces that are like, so, like, insidious like that, it’s like in every area of your life, it’s really hard to extract yourself from that. And I think, yeah, I think Nicola probably can identify with that better than I could because I was like after four months I was like, I’m not doing this shit anymore. Yeah, but like, Nicola was really, like, ingrained in it, like, deep. Yeah. Don’t you have to deprogram yourself as well? Like you have to deprogram yourself from what you thought was okay and you got to go through some a period of deprogramming so that you can realign yourself better. Does that make sense?

Nicola [00:21:12] Oh, yeah, I totally know what you mean. Because I was so depressed coming out of my toxic workplace, because that was, you know, I’ve said before, it was my entire identity.

Gina [00:21:21] Yes. Yes, exactly.

Nicola [00:21:22] You know, and personal life and professional life.

Gina [00:21:25] Yeah, that’s exactly it. It becomes your identity. Yeah. And I think, like for Nicola, because I, I was like, I knew her through that time. She was in, like, a deep depression. But then once I left and I reached back out to her, I think you were starting to kind of come out of it on your own. But then I think having the conversation with me about like me being like, was that place not totally fucked up and her like the solidarity there. And we’re like, Yeah, it was really fucked up like, together. Did that, did that happen with you? Did any of your friends who worked there at one point, you know? Yeah. Have you guys there about it? Yeah. My one girlfriend who I’m very, very close with, she. We’ve been on this journey together. We dissect it and we’ve dissected it together and had a deep program. There’s a couple other girls that are still kind of processing things. She actually ended up marrying me, me and my husband, because I wanted somebody. Okay. Yeah. And I mean.

Nicola [00:22:26] I picked up on that story. I was like, Oh, she married you and your husband. Clearly, this swingers thing has followed through back.

Gina [00:22:36] No, no. We had our go and get her whatever it’s called, and they get ordained, right? To be like, Yeah, yeah, she got her dad because I needed somebody Who because I got married in a Catholic church initially. And I couldn’t tell you who that priest was if you were sitting next to me. So I wanted somebody that could hold us accountable that was, you know, had same faith as us and is can say, hey, hey, you know, add some value to it. So is there anything like really like over the top while that ever happened because there was this one time where, Oh, so my one girlfriend, she was really, really great at Darling Champagne and she had this one client that he had his girlfriend and he had his wife and he was coming in for a good, I don’t know, couple of weeks. And there was this two guys. He was one of them. Were they they didn’t know each other at first, but they would compete because this guy is getting a lot of attention because he’s spending, I don’t know, whatever it is, ten, 15, 20 grand a night. And the bottles of champagne are coming out, coming out, coming out while the other guy who’s also wealthy sees it and now he wants to be on the same playing ground as he is so they can be back and forth to each other. And yeah, so it was the good, I don’t know, weeks of him coming in and out. Right. And it got to the point and she was friends with him and it got to the point where we had FBI come in on us and bring her in the back because of all the shadiness that is associated with him. And she had like, I don’t know if it’s FBI or whatever. It was a big, big it was a big thing. And it came in the back. I asked, would you like your money or something? I don’t know. But long story short, he went to prison for many, many years after that. And I don’t know if he’s still in prison or not. But, you know, we had the cameras to show all of it to it. It was like crazy because, you know, not only is he spending money because we were not allowed like it was supposed to be, you know, you have one bottle of champagne. Somebody told us about the champagne. You have to get it from the back. It’s in the locks. They had the most expensive bottle while we had like ten of them out throughout behind the bar because he was ordered some money at the time that we need to be able to give it to him immediately. And but then, you know, he would have thousands of dollars of singles and throw them in the air. So our bar was always filled. What when you think about it, it’s just so toxic and it’s not okay to have money thrown on you. You know, it’s not okay to have money thrown over your head. It’s just not okay because you know, what’s the love? And I don’t mind someone throwing money on my head just as long as there are $100 bills. I know what you mean, Joe. That’s what I think. Yeah, I think you probably had a different, like, you know, like it was the whole environment. Like, if someone just came over to me right now and poured, like, a bucket of one. $2 bills over my head. Therefore, it’s okay. Yeah. I’m on sporadic sporadically like. Yes, okay, that’s great. But when you’re when you’re basically sanctified all the time. Yeah. Like singles being thrown. I think that like, cause I’m like, specific for yourself, I someone should throw money right in my face right now. You know, to be.

Nicola [00:25:40] Honest, I’m. I’m so single. Like, if you were to drop some balls in my face attached to $100 bills, I’m there for us. If that’s what we need to do today.

Gina [00:25:52] We take that to the next level. That’s does. It does. Yeah. One of the worst.

Nicola [00:25:58] I’m the toxic workplace colleague.

Gina [00:26:00] Honestly won’t together you were but I think. But then you left and then I was the toxic workplace colleague. I took your place, so don’t worry about it. Yeah. Do you think that I do toxic or do you think I’m just exaggerating?

Nicola [00:26:17] I know. I think. I think from a toxicity perspective, I think the fact that you’re recruiting in people off the streets, you have that deep sick family thinking or that you can’t be outside of the group because you’re doing everything together all of the time.

Gina [00:26:38] I think it’s a cult. It was a cult, Yeah.

Nicola [00:26:43] It’s their own form of cult, right? And then, yeah, you’ve also got this this really, you know, notoriously toxic working environment around, you know, not specifically sex work, but, you know, you’re being objectified consistently and it’s changing your perspective, rewriting the way that you see relationships and you see the way that you perceive to be loved. Yeah. The way you perceive affection, where it’s now just glorified and it’s this objectified focus, you know, like, you know, you thought it was okay to pitch up at the, you know, babies thing with your tits hanging out.

Gina [00:27:26] Hey, ho, hey, hey. Yeah, how embarrassing. Now I look back and I’m like, Oh, my God.

Nicola [00:27:33] Exactly. But for you, in your mind, you were totally fine. You were like, What are you talking about? But it’s that brainwashing, right? It’s that that level of like, you just don’t see it until you’re away from it and you have better perspective.

Gina [00:27:47] Yes, I do feel like there’s a lot of young girls or girls in general that are in that environment that don’t really see how toxic it is and how much there’s really more to life than that. So sharing the stories like this, I think, help people kind of just say I’m not alone. And that yeah, I guess that is toxic solidarity. If I were doing it. A lot of times people just need community so they accept the toxicity because they want the community of having people around them.

Nicola [00:28:18] The connection.

Gina [00:28:19] Yeah, I mean, it’s part of like the human condition to want to feel like, accepted and loved and all that. But why do we go to a workplace to do that? You know, because that’s where we spend the majority of our time. For me, I’m like, Would I be friends with this person outside of work?

Nicola [00:28:34] I won’t take that out. The fact that, you know, like have admitted that you just hate me. It’s fine.

Gina [00:28:39] I didn’t say anything about you.

Nicola [00:28:41] You didn’t.

Gina [00:28:42] You just when we were. Were you happy together? Oh, yeah. I was like. I was like this battle ax. I was like, I can’t relax.

Nicola [00:28:51] Because that bitch is beast.

Gina [00:28:54] Oh, my God. Yeah. Anyway, all right.

Nicola [00:28:58] Hyatt said this is my early morning. The club, the. You should see my afternoon.

Gina [00:29:01] Nicola laughs. All right, well, Joel, thank you so much for sharing your story. And yeah, but anyway, we.

Nicola [00:29:09] Thank you for joining us today. I appreciate.

Gina [00:29:12] Awesome meeting. Yea, thanks. Thanks so much for having me and I’ll talk to you guys.

Nicola [00:29:16] What is going on here? What do you mean? Like how is this so or how is this picking up so much pace? Like, how is this trajectory like so insane?

Gina [00:29:27] I’m telling you, I had a great idea. Yeah, good idea.

Nicola [00:29:31] The charismatic.

Gina [00:29:33] Leader. No. Yes. Between the two of us, I’m the charismatic leader. And you’re the battle ax. And now that we have now we have a podcast, and everyone will start drinking our Kool-Aid.

Nicola [00:29:45] Please drink out. Great. Lied.

Gina [00:29:46] No, No one should drink Kool-Aid. Ever make it out unless you’re at a picnic. And the Kool-Aid is really good. But I’m not a huge fan of Kool-Aid. Kool-Aid? You know what? I’m.

Nicola [00:29:57] You know what? It’s too sweet. And I also don’t like Powerade.

Gina [00:30:00] I don’t really.

Nicola [00:30:00] Like Gatorade’s, Gatorade or whatever. It’s not really my job. I drink water and I’m happy. Thanks.

Gina [00:30:06] Me too. And like, if I want like flavor in my water, I get one of those like zero calorie like flavor things and I just squeeze it in and I make like, lemonade and it tastes delicious. That sounds disgusting.

Nicola [00:30:16] I would be happy. If I need that flavor in my life. It’s wine firstly. And then if I need more flavor in my life, then I usually have one of those fizzes that like the vitamin fizzes and then I’ll just put it in like half of water. Ill like this vitamin Fizzy. Nonetheless, I don’t take any vitamins.

Gina [00:30:33] I know, but I still don’t think it’s. I don’t know. I don’t think they’re delicious. I wouldn’t go that far.

Nicola [00:30:39] Sara, maybe you maybe just having gross ones in your life, we might.

Gina [00:30:43] Well, in America, we have, like, emergency ill.

Nicola [00:30:46] I had that while I was in America, and that was great. So it’s because I assumed it was going to be delicious fizzes. And then I was like, Oh, this is kind of like a funny aftertaste. Like you.

Gina [00:30:55] Yeah, it’s not great.

Nicola [00:30:56] America is not all it’s cracked up to be.

Gina [00:31:00] It’s not especially.

Nicola [00:31:02] So special in America. Everything’s amazing. And everything is not amazing in America. No, MotoGP is just gusting.

Gina [00:31:10] Wait. Ah. What are milk?

Nicola [00:31:12] Yeah.

Gina [00:31:13] Wait. This is the first time I’m hearing that.

Nicola [00:31:15] Your milk is disgusting. It is absolutely foul.

Gina [00:31:19] Why does it taste different than New Zealand milk?

Nicola [00:31:22] Because our milk is because we love our cows.

Gina [00:31:25] Okay. Is it pasteurized? Your milk?

Nicola [00:31:27] You can get unpasteurized, but yes, most of it’s pasteurized.

Gina [00:31:30] Okay. Because I’m trying to think like what is actually the difference? Like me.

Nicola [00:31:33] Okay, so what I found in America is all of your milk is like 2%. Like your standard milk is 2% milk. You go to the supermarket and it’s like just rows of 2% milk. All our milk is full cream. Milk, all of it.

Gina [00:31:47] Well, so it’s just like it’s full fat milk, like it’s full fat.

Nicola [00:31:51] Not, it’s not half and half and it’s not cream, it’s just full fat milk and it’s.

Gina [00:31:55] My daughter drinks and it’s just it’s a lot creamier and thicker.

Nicola [00:31:59] And I just like milk here because what you’ve done is you’ve essentially just put water in your milk.

Gina [00:32:05] You’re just watering down the milk for like 2%. Yeah.

Nicola [00:32:08] So let’s know what.

Gina [00:32:09] Milk tastes like. You probably just needed to find the full.

Nicola [00:32:14] I ended up when I was there, I ended up having to get half and half because that was as close to New Zealand milk as I could get. The other thing that is absolutely rancid is eggs. Your eggs are rancid.

Gina [00:32:26] Okay. I don’t taste like ass. I don’t like eggs. So I don’t eat them. Like if they’re in a baked good or something where I’m not actually eating an egg, fine, that’s fine. But like, all like an egg or a scrambled egg, I will not eat that. Absolutely disgusting. Makes me want to hurl.

Nicola [00:32:42] I’m allergic to eggs, but I still eat them. And then that is not a fun time for me. So don’t eat them. But I. I kind of like a I love an omelet. I love an omelet.

Gina [00:32:54] I love an egg white omelet.

Nicola [00:32:56] I will just take an omelet. But they do not work for me. And then I have explosive diarrhea.

Gina [00:33:08] GROSS but also hilarious. It’s like.

Nicola [00:33:12] Oh, Lord and clean. It’s really it’s like, oh, yeah.

Gina [00:33:15] That’s exactly what it sounds like. That’s so fucking funny. Bye.

Nicola [00:33:19] All right. See you later. Bye.

Gina [00:33:21] Yep. Bye.

Nicola [00:33:23] Thank you for joining us today. If you would like to share your story, we would love to hear from you.

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Nicola [00:33:34] For those of our listeners who do better with reading, we have closed captioning available on YouTube.

Gina [00:33:39] Next week, same time, same place.

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